Winter Wheels and Tyres

[Epigram]

The tyre size calculator in Webbah’s post above ( on tiresize.com) is a very useful reference tool for anyone wanting to investigate different rim/tyre combinations. There are still clearance and load hurdles to cross!

The diameter difference between 225/45/18 OEM on an MP Sport and 245/45/19 OEM on an AMG in Wheel Size Category 2 is about 3.5%. Therefore it is reasonable to assume a change in diameter within this percentage for an alternative wheel/tyre combination won’t upset the electronic control units.

I would expect anything more than this would not be considered acceptable by MB.

It would be interesting to know what diameter MB has set for accurate speedometer /odometer readings in each tyre/wheelsize category .

 

[Webbah]

So I finally made a decision. The A/T tires will be a tough fit in any size. I decided to buy the 17 inch Twin Monotube Projekt Concave Granit color rims with the following tires:

Cooper WeatherMaster WSC 4x4 in size 235/55R17 with a load rating of 103T XL. Perfect fit, and most aggressive winter tire I could find to match the rims.

WeatherMaster WSC (4x4) - Cooper Tires™ Official Website

The Weather-Master WSC™ is a winter tire specifically designed for CUVs, SUVs and light duty pickup trucks. Improved snow acceleration.

www.coopertire.eu

 

[Epigram]

A good choice.
It‘s been a long journey but at least this thread now has the data for others making similar choices.
Pictures please when fitted

 

[Webbah]

A good choice.
It‘s been a long journey but at least this thread now has the data for others making similar choices.
Pictures please when fitted

Will post photos. Unfortunately it looks like 10 days or so delivery time for the wheels.

 

[Webbah]

A good choice.
It‘s been a long journey but at least this thread now has the data for others making similar choices.
Pictures please when fitted

Here's a photo from a website that led me to discover the Twin-Monotube Projekt rims. My MP is the same color and these are black in the photo. With a beige interior and the AMG package I thought black was too dark and the Granite would look much better. Fingers crossed!

 

[Epigram]

Expensive rims but probably worth it for the detachable protection ring.
Looks like that MP has had its suspenion lifted.

 

[Samebutdifferent]

Expensive rims but probably worth it for the detachable protection ring.
Looks like that MP has had its suspenion lifted.

Eibach Pro Lift?

 

[Webbah]

Expensive rims but probably worth it for the detachable protection ring.
Looks like that MP has had its suspenion lifted.

Yes, that one has a lift. This is from terranger.de

I have AirMatic on my 300d and can lift as well, but the issue with AirMatic is above 30 Km/h it drops back to standard ride height. There is no way to keep it lifted. The other thing is my mechanic claims that there is also no way for me to change to VB or Goldschmidt Air suspension as I already have AirMatic. So I don't have many options anymore for modifying the suspension. I've contacted several after market companies that already sell recoding mods for other models of MB's with AirMatic to lower ride height to see if they can come up with something. Those kits have been around for years but AirMatic on a V Class is very new and only an option from May 2021 from what I can tell.

 

[Webbah]

Expensive rims but probably worth it for the detachable protection ring.
Looks like that MP has had its suspenion lifted.

The price is actually ok for forged wheels that only weigh 13 kg's per corner. I'll be saving about 40-50 kg's of unsprung weight total vs the stock 19 inch AMG's. The only options I've found for off road style wheels that are homologated and legal are:

- Black Rhino Sandstorm in 17 or 18 inch
- Steel wheels in 17 inch
- Hess H53's in 18 inch
- Twin Monotube Projekt in 17 or 18 inch

After a lot of research it's better to get the 17 inch to have more tire options that will fit.

 

[Webbah]

If it helps anyone here are the sources I've been using to research off road setups. Only in German though, but I don't speak German myself and use Google Translate. Most of the good info for this is found on the German sites anyway!

trending_product_page_template | Hess Automobile Alpnach AG

shop.automobile-hess.ch

TA-V2, für Mercedes-Benz Vito / V-Klasse (BM 447, Bj. ab 10/2014)

www.terranger.de

V-Klasse / Vito 447 | Tuning Teile online kaufen

Hochwertige Tuningteile und Styling-Zubehör für Ihren Vito 447 SUV Geländewagen oder Ihre Mercedes V-Klasse in erstklassiger Qualität. Verleihen Sie Ihrem Fahrzeug ein individuelles Design mit hochwertigen Tuningteilen.

shop.hartmann-tuning.com

MB Vito / V-Klasse / Iglhaut Allrad

iglhaut-allrad.de

 

[Webbah]

I know this thread is primarily about Winter Tyres and I posted the Cooper Weather Master WSC's in 235/55R17 for that. I wanted to follow up on what I've found to be the best choice for Summer All Terrain'ish tyres that will fit the MP. I've researched this at length and the tyres I will get for next Summer with the Twin-Monotube Projekt AT 17 inch wheels is the Continental CrossContact ATR in 235/55R17. This seem to be a great choice as they are designed for 70% onroad and 30% offroad use 4x4 and SUV with a good XL load rating. Hope it helps!